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RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - TheEd - 13-12-2020 good luck for the session this coming week Markco let us know how the body feels before and after the 1k session you seem to be absorbing the training you do but may be taking a little longer than 'previous normal' on we go TheEd RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - MarkCo - 15-12-2020 13 Dec Recovery run 8.06km in 41:29 5:09/km Av HR 139 Feeling a bit drained and heavy, so kept it very easy and HR low. 14 Dec Rested instead of the easy 10k, felt I needed it. 15 Dec - 1000s Back to 6 repeats, up from 5 last cycle. Plan was to aim for around 4:00-4:05/km but first km came in just under 4:00 and felt comfortable, so I had on my mind to see if I could get them all under 4:00 for the first time from that point! On the 3rd repeat I must have sub-consciously got slightly carried away as I realised towards the end of it I was going faster and so slowed down for the 3:53. Subsequent repeats back on track and then a squeeze for the last one, which was admittedly quite hard. Legs felt very good throughout, it's just a case of getting the speed-stamina back. km / time / av HR / max HR / min HR after rest (60 seconds walking) 1 / 3:58 / 162 / 170 / 132 2 / 3:57 / 163 / 171 / 139 3 / 3:53 / 166 / 176 / 138 4 / 3:58 / 164 / 177 / 143 5 / 3:58 / 166 / 176 / 146 6 / 3:53 / 170 / 179 / 142 Av. Pace of intervals 3:57/km Previous 1000s from 17 Nov: km / time / av HR / max HR / min HR after rest (60 seconds walking) 1 / 4:06 / 158 / 171 / 135 2 / 4:03 / 161 / 174 / 131 3 / 4:00 / 164 / 174 / 138 4 / 4:00 / 166 / 176 / 143 5 / 3:57 / 169 / 176 / 138 Av. Pace of intervals 4:01/km RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - MarkCo - 27-12-2020 Hi TheEd Hope you and your family had an enjoyable festive season. We ended up staying in London due to the new tier 4 rules so it was quieter than usual but it did give me the opportunity to do a couple of runs on Xmas Eve and boxing which I otherwise probably wouldn't have managed! Following on from my last update... 16 Dec Recovery 7.72km in 38:01 4:55/km AV HR 138 18 Dec 12.47km in 1:00:58 4:53/km AV HR 144 19 Dec 5k pace run 3km warm up and 2.3km cool down, circa 5:00/km pace. Very similar effort to last time, even slightly lower HR, and going a bit quicker, so there is some improvement there. km / pace / Av HR 1 / 4:18 / 148 2 / 4:17 / 165 3 / 4:09 / 166 4 / 4:11 / 171 5 / 3:59 / 170 Total time: 20:54 (4:11/km) Previous 5k pace on 29 November: km / pace / Av HR 1 / 4:18 / 153 2 / 4:15 / 166 3 / 4:13 / 168 4 / 4:18 / 171 5 / 4:02 / 172 Total time: 21:07 (4:13/km) 21 Dec Easy 12.37km in 1:00:09 4:52/km AV HR 145 24 Dec 3x 5 mins fartlek 3km WU and CD at easy pace. Kept it a bit easier than last cycle. Wasn't feeling on top form and I did go a bit too intense on the last cycle, especially the last repeat anyway. Interval / time / distance / pace / Av HR / Max HR 1 / 5:00 / 1.11km / 4:27 / 160 / 164 2 / 5:00 / 1.16km / 4:15 / 164 / 168 3 / 5:00 / 1:22km / 4:01 / 167 / 172 Prev session from 25 Nov: Interval / time / distance / pace / Av HR / Max HR 1 / 5:00 / 1.16km / 4:10 / 162 / 167 2 / 5:00 / 1.19km / 4:04 / 162 / 165 3 / 5:00 / 1:24km / 3:59 / 169 / 177 26 Dec Race day. Decided on something different, didn't want a longer intense distance so thought I'd try a quick mile, which I've never done before specifically. My previous mile best on Strava was recorded as 6:21 as part of a previous 5k race so I was confident I could beat that and so set my sights on 6:00 and managed to achieve that. It was quite windy with the start of Storm Bella coming in and the park was quite busy. The effort felt 90-95% so hard but I am pretty confident I could go a bit quicker on a track with better conditions. Anyway, I found it an interesting test and a marker set down to beat at some point in the future. 4k WU and 4k CD easy pace. Lap / dist (km) / time / pace / AV HR / Max HR 1 / 1.00 / 3:47 / 3:47 / 159 / 177 2 / 0.61 / 2:14 / 3:40 / 175 / 178 Total time (1 mile) 6:00. Cheers RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - TheEd - 28-12-2020 season's greetings markco and all the best for 2021 nice to set a marker and begin afresh enjoy the training and keep the intensity enjoyable onwards TheEd ps.. nice set of training RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - MarkCo - 04-01-2021 Thanks TheEd I went a bit off piste after the last cycle, and will be starting a new cycle day 1 today. Proposed pace for 2000s is circa 4:15/km and 1000s 4:00/km (so approx the same as I did last cycle). Update of recent runs below... 27 Dec 7.68km in 37:41 4:54/km AV HR 142 29 Dec Started off as an easy run but was feeling great and like running faster, so it turned into an accidental progressive 10k effort. Km splits were: 4:57 4:41 4:33 4:38 4:34 4:26 4:24 4:22 4:16 3:59 Total time 44:53, which is my 3rd best 10k time ever and average HR 154. 31 Dec 16.47km easy in 1:19:23 4:49/km AV HR 148 Felt strong. Strava says it included my best 10 mile and 15km efforts. 2 Jan 10.22km in 49:28 4:50/km AV HR 144 Cheers RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - TheEd - 04-01-2021 He markco .. you seem to have moved into an experienced runner mold whereby you retain the memory of a runner in your body all looks good, make sure not to overdo things and hopefully it goes smoothly TheEd RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - MarkCo - 06-01-2021 Thanks TheEd, I appreciate that. I do feel as though I can trust my instincts more these days as to when to train, when to rest and how hard to push myself /when to hold back etc. I hope to be able to put it into practice with some racing before too long! 4 Jan 14.01km in 1:07:59 4:51/km AV HR 147 5 Jan Left hip slightly sore so rested. I've had this several times and bizarrely I think I've narrowed it down to eating eggs! 6 Jan Feeling much better for the 2000s today. Very cold but nice, still conditions. I wanted to try and get the intervals a bit more consistent than last cycle but still with some room to finish strong. I was pleased to be able to average around 8 seconds per km faster than last cycle and feel there is a definite improvement there. Interval / time (splits) / AV HR / Max HR / Min HR 1 / 8:19 (4:09, 4:09) / 158 / 166 / 122 2 / 8:10 (4:04, 4:06) / 163 / 170 / 127 3 / 8:07 (4:05, 4:02) / 165 / 172 / 131 4 / 8:11 (4:05, 4:06 ) / 166 / 173 / 133 5 / 8:03 (4:06, 3:57) / 167 / 175 / 125 Average pace during intervals 4:05/km Previous 2000 session from 10Dec: Interval / time (splits) / AV HR / Max HR / Min HR 1 / 8:54 (4:27, 4:27) / 154 / 162 / 116 2 / 8:34 (4:19, 4:15) / 159 / 168 / 120 3 / 8:21 (4:11, 4:09) / 164 / 173 / 127 4 / 8:17 (4:08, 4:09 ) / 167 / 173 / 134 5 / 8:05 (4:07, 3:58) / 168 / 181 / 130 Average pace during intervals 4:13/km Cheers RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - TheEd - 06-01-2021 great to hear ... nice 2k session TheEd RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - MarkCo - 11-01-2021 7 Jan Rested 8 Jan Long run. Was feeling good during the run so did an extra lap which added on 4km. In hindsight I might have been better not doing this having been a bit tired the day before but it mean another 1/2 marathon distance which is always nice to do. 21.12km in 1:40:15 4:45/km AV HR 149 9 Jan Rested 10 Jan Easy run 7.73km in 37:25 4:50/km AV HR 143 11 Jan 6 X 1000. Session looks good on paper but it didn't feel great. I felt lethargic during the warm up and it was difficult to get myself going, had to really make an effort. Also, gusty wind (the weather, not me!) which is always a bit frustrating and just couldn't get into a nice relaxed rhythm. Managed to finish the 6 intervals though in consistent pace, marginally faster average than last cycle, so happy that I was able to do that. Abandoned cool down jog and walked home instead to conserve myself for next time! km / time / av HR / max HR / min HR after rest (60 seconds walking) 1 / 4:00 / 151 / 165 / 125 2 / 3:56 / 158 / 170 / 131 3 / 3:57 / 160 / 169 / 131 4 / 3:52 / 163 / 172 / 137 5 / 3:56 / 161 / 171 / 135 6 / 3:55 / 163 / 175 / 131 Av. Pace of intervals 3:56/km Previous 6x1000 from 15 Dec: km / time / av HR / max HR / min HR after rest (60 seconds walking) 1 / 3:58 / 162 / 170 / 132 2 / 3:57 / 163 / 171 / 139 3 / 3:53 / 166 / 176 / 138 4 / 3:58 / 164 / 177 / 143 5 / 3:58 / 166 / 176 / 146 6 / 3:53 / 170 / 179 / 142 Av. Pace of intervals 3:57/km Cheers RE: Improving 10k time at altitude - TheEd - 12-01-2021 Hi markco .. adding the extra distance could have added to the feeling in the 1k session .. all in all it shows a jump in your development as a runner enjoy the easier week of running TheEd |