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sub 50 training - TheEd - 06-09-2009

whereas I recommend heart rate tracking for training I also recommend racing according to mental effort and feeling on race day

only checking your hr according to pace after the 10k race

from what I have seen so far your ideal race hr effort may be between 175 and 180 before pushing yourself over the last 3 km of the event

Hopefully this little feedback is of help

TheEd


sub 50 training - pavelz5 - 12-09-2009

Hi,

Here my race. Again under 50's.
I've felt well since 5km but then I've felt very exhausted and without energy.

Last 2 km were at very low speed.

my legs were quite ok but the HR increased very high. When 185HR is reached then I felt so exhausted. Even I've pushed down my speed the HR didn't stabilized at reasonable rates. I had to decrese the speed to 5:50 or 6:00 to feel confortable.



Time Distance Av speed AvHR Max HR
0:05:03 1 5:03 162 173
0:04:47 2 4:47 176 178
0:05:00 3 5:00 179 182
0:04:51 4 4:51 183 186
0:05:03 5 5:03 185 188
0:05:02 6 5:02 184 188
0:05:28 7 5:28 181 189
0:05:19 8 5:19 183 185
0:06:23 9 6:23 176 185 (walking some seconds)
0:05:24 10 5:48 168 181
0:52:25 10 5:16 178 189



It was a problem of race strategy or I'm really unfitted to reach under 50's?

what we can do? It's another race on 4th October. I want to try again.


sub 50 training - TheEd - 12-09-2009

continue with the cycle from Tuesday as Day 1 ... things should get better, you still very new to the structure so there is a lot still to come

TheEd


sub 50 training - pavelz5 - 01-11-2009

Hi ,


long time since last post, but work affairs makes me impossible to follow on this comunication. Sorry.

But I resume what I've been done since then:

I've tried to follow up your sub 50 program and finally 22th september I reached 48:40 on an urban race 10K.

Since then I've tried to change to sub 45 program, but :mad: when I arrived to 2K test, was impossible to reach the pace. Reality is I'm too far from this pace.


For this reason since saturday, I've began Build up program, with this results

Day 1:

58 min
9,23km
156bpm


Day 2:

55 min
8,62km
152bpm


What do you think about?

I'm doing well changing to BU program?

The bpm are ok, or too high?


thanks.


sub 50 training - TheEd - 01-11-2009

Congrats on the 48 minute 10k achievement

trying to move to doing the sub 45 minute 2000m session is quite a step-up however if we do things carefully you should get there

Yes, do the build-up program and lets see how things go

try drop your pulse below 150 to stay on the comfortable side and to adapt to the higher workload

Onwards and forwards

TheEd


sub 50 training - pavelz5 - 08-11-2009

Hi ,

After some work days here you can find my results.

Day 3: (2/11)

6,28km
HR 150
42 min

Day 5Sad4/11)

Hill parameters:
10m slope
0,35km uphill
0,4km downhill

6 times
Total : 42:30 / 150HR


Day 6 and Day 8:

I went doing trekking on mountains. 2 days with aprox. 22km walk and 2200m accumulated elevation


Day 9: (8/11)
9 km
56:43 min
150HR (average)
15 last minutes at 155HR


Is trekking compatible with running programs?

I will inform you next days about my progress,


sub 50 training - TheEd - 08-11-2009

pavelz5 Wrote:Is trekking compatible with running programs?
I would certainly say NO

however if you don't get disappointed when the results don't come immediately then there should be no harm

Cheers

TheEd


sub 50 training - pavelz5 - 11-11-2009

Hello,

Following with the plan here are the results:

Day 9:

47:12
HR: 149
7,1km

Day 10:
9,55km
61min
HR:150

Day 11:

1km warm up HR 147

8 min: HR:158
2min: HR at 2 min:150
8 min: HR:163
2min: HR at 2min:152
8 min: HR:165
2min: HR at 2 min:148
8 min: HR:164
2min: HR at 2min:149
8 min: HR:164
2min: HR at 2min:148



In 2 days I have to "work the hills". Which HR do you recomend?


Bye


sub 50 training - TheEd - 11-11-2009

you can push your pulse up to 165 to 170

it does mean you have to run at that level all the time but you can have it hover around that bpm for 2 to 3 minutes at a time max

Please ask questions if clarity needed

TheEd